epa had lisa jackson van jones who was at the white house and president obama won an election. he liked susan rice. he's close to her. it's clear he thinks she would be the best for the job or one of the best for the job, and he's going to fight for her. i think you're right. backing him into a corner may prompt him to fight harder. >> amanda, the story has not advanced since day one. john mccain and kelly ayotte and lindsey graham saying why did she say the things she said? the only advance we had is the intelligence community said she said exactly what we told her to say. we knew it was an attack, and we told her not to say because we didn't want al qaeda to know we knew it at that point. the real question is why is mccain making this attack and wasting whatever political capital and reputation he has left? >> reporter: well, some people are wondering does mccain want to simply stay in the spotlight? mccain is known for foreign policy. he's known for going on sunday shows. the benghazi issue gets him back in the spotlight. everyone is talking about john mccain again. so some